IETF 119 Public Side Meeting “Enterprise Scenario and Deployment Discussion”

Summary

This was a public side meeting to hear from Enterprises and SP Enterprise Services Provider participants about enterprise networking specific scenarios and deployment problems that IETF participants might be interested in, with the intent to disseminate interest and discuss possible work within the IETF.

The original of this file is at https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-119-public-side-meeting-enterprise.
Any other version is possibly not current.

Schedule

This meeting is scheduled for Thursday March 21st in P6-7, 8:00 - 9:30 at IETF119. See also public side meeting @IETF119

Remote attendance

https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2

Note Well

This is the logistic notes page for a public side meeting @IETF119. This meeting and all contributions to it are subject to the IETF Note Well. Please familiarize yourself with this Note Well.

This meeting will be recorded on the IETF public side meeting webex and the slides and recording will be shared after the meeting.

Participants

Onsite

  1. Andrew Campling, 419 Consulting, andrew.campling@419.consulting
  2. Jie Dong, Huawei, jiedong@huawei.com
  3. Mike Mcbride, Futurewei,mmcbride7@gmail.com
  4. Younghan Kim, SSU, younghak7@gmail.com
  5. Bing Liu, Huawei, leo.liubing@huawei.com
  6. Qiangzhou Gao, Huawei, gaoqiangzhou@huawei.com
  7. Toerless Eckert, Futurewei, tte@cs.fau.de
  8. Arnaud Taddie, Broadcom(Enterprise Security Group), arnaud.taddie@gmail.com
  9. Jari Arkko, Ericsson, jari.arkko@gmail.com
  10. Carsten Bormann, TZI, cabo@tzi.org
  11. Xinxin Yi, China Unicom, yixx3@chinaunicom.cn
  12. Tao He, China Unicom, het21@chinaunicom.cn
  13. Rachel Huang, Huawei, rachel.huang@huawei.com
  14. Alistair Woodman, NetDEF, awoodman@netdef.org
  15. Dean Bogdanovic, Independent, ivandean@gmail.com
  16. Michael P, NCSC, michael.p@ncsc.gov.uk
  17. Andrew S, NCSC, andrew.s2@ncsc.gov.uk
  18. Zhenbin Li, Huawei, lizhenbin@huawei.com
  19. Darren Dukes, Cisco, ddukesietf@gmail.com
  20. David Fan, Huawei, david.fan@huawei.com
  21. Xuesong Geng, Huawei, gengxuesong@huawei.com

Online

  1. Hermin Anggawijaya, Allied Telesis Labs (NZ), hermin.anggawijaya@alliedtelesis.co.nz
  2. Hesham Elbakoury, Independent Consultant, helbakoury@gmail.com
  3. Jan Lindblad, Cisco, jlindbla@cisco.com
  4. Marco Liebsch, NEC Lab, Marco.Liebsch@neclab.eu
  5. Oliver Borchert, NIST, oliver.borchert@nist.gov
  6. Per Andersson, Cisco, perander@cisco.com
  7. Scott Rose, NIST, scott.rose@nist.gov
  8. Tajender Singh, N/A, N/A
  9. Xipeng Xiao, Huawei, xipengxiao@huawei.com
  10. Zongpeng Du, China Mobile, duzongpeng@chinamobile.com
  11. Alper Kamil Demir, Adana Alparslan Turkeş Science and Technology University, akdemir@atu.edu.tr
  12. Marisol Palmero, Cisco, mpalmero@cisco.com
  13. Adrian Farrel, Old Dog Consulting, adrian@olddog.co.uk
  14. Yihong Huang, Huawei, rachel.huang@huawei.com
  15. Gonzalo Salgueiro, Cisco, gsalguei@cisco.com
  16. Srihari Sangli, Juniper, ssangli@juniper.net
  17. Alexander Clemm, Futurewei, ludwig@clemm.org
  18. Vishnu Pavan Beeram, Juniper, vbeeram@juniper.net
  19. Rob Wilton, Cisco, rwilton@cisco.com
  20. Li Zhang, Huawei, zhangli344@huawei.com
  21. Bo Wu, Huawei, lana.wubo@huawei.com
  22. Snezana Mitrovic, Cisco, snmitrov@cisco.com
  23. Qiufang Ma, Huawei, maqiufang1@huawei.com

Mailing List

If you are interested to continue discussions about enterprise scenarios and deployment, please add your for email to your participant liste entry. If there is sufficient interest, we will as the IETF to create an “enterprise@ietf.org” mailing list on which such discussions could be continued

Agenda

  1. Introduction
  2. (remote) Jordi Paillisse Vilanova, UPC - BarcelonaTech, 10 min
    “LISP use in Enterprises” ACM paper
  3. (remote) Bo She, Xi’an Jiaotong University, “Campus network deployment in Xi’an Jiaotong University”, 10 min
  4. Xinxin Yi, China Unicom, “Enterprise private line service, scenarios and further requrements”, 10 min
  5. Dean Bogdanovic, Alefedge, “Enterprise Private Mobile Networking”, 10 min
  6. Qiangzhou Gao, Huawei, “QoE assurance for enterprise video conferencing”, 10 min
  7. Jari Arkko, Ericsson, “Considerations on Application - Network Collaboration according to RFC9419”, 5 min
  8. Open discussion & Wrap-up, 30 min

Slides are available on github

Invite

Dear colleagues @ IETF119

We want to invite you for a public side meeting to hear from Enterprises and SP Enterprise Services participants about enterprise networking specific scenarios and deployment problems that you are interested in to find more interest in the IETF or would like to question other participants about -band you have not found a fitting WG/RG to do the work in, or would ike to reach out to a broader enterprisebcommunity.

We thought this might be of interest to brainstorm topics before they may be ripe for a WG, and also because existing WGs may either by alreadying having more than full agendas with broader scope or do not cover (all of) the desired enterprise scope (eg: opsawg, iotdir, mops).

This meeting is scheduled for Thursday March 21st in P6-7, 8:00 - 9:30 AM and is listed in the IETF119 side
meeting wiki:

https://wiki.ietf.org/en/meeting/119/sidemeetings

We will also use the side meeting webex, so you can attend remotely, or if the room is too crowded:

https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2

If we see that there is interest in this type of non-WG sync-up, maybe it could also lead to an “enterprise” mailing list to allow for such a forum to continue.

Let us know if you have specific topics you would like to talk about < 10 minutes, so we can set aside
some time, but we would like to keep at least 30 minutes of the meeting for open discussions.

Recording

Unfortunately, the recording did not quite work out. The side meeting explanations recommended to record on the organizers local laptop, which i did, and. in result i got a short .mp4 file and a 250MByte .webex file, both of which i fail to play fully as expected.

Turns out that the .webex file is actually an mp4 file which you can play when you rename it to .mp4 with various players, but it has multiple video tracks, and the important slide video track is not in sync with the audio track, but instead it is quite a few minutes ahead.

For the time being these two recording files are uploaded at the following URL, not sure if there is a way to fix up the recording. If you know how, please reach out to me (tte@cs.fau.de). Otherwise, just download the .webex file, rename to .mp4 and give it a try in Windows Media Player or VLC (you need to explicitly select the video tracks in VLC)

Google Drive

Organizers

Please feel free to contact us via email: gaoqiangzhou@huawei.com, tte@cs.fau.de (Toerless Eckert)